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Episode 10 – Vision Mapping Your Goals with Tracey Roesch Williams

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Episode 10 - Vision Mapping Your Goals with Tracey Roesch Williams

Ever tried your hand at crafting a vision board? In this episode, I’m teaming up with the incredible Tracy Roesch Williams to dive deep into the magic of creating a Vision Map – and trust me, it’s way more than just a collage of cutouts on your wall.

Meet Tracy, a true visionary who’s mastered the art of career reinvention time and again. Her secret sauce? Nailing down a crystal-clear vision and then making it come to life, every single time.

If you’ve ever wondered why your ‘vision thing’ isn’t quite hitting the mark, Tracy’s insights might just be your game-changer. It’s all about aligning that vision with your true self and your future.

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Hello everyone. I want to welcome you back. 

There is so much going on around here these days. I am interviewing so many amazing people for upcoming episodes of this podcast. So many subject matter experts. I have HR leaders, I have executive leaders, and I have female executive leaders. I have branding specialists. So many great things coming up over the next few months. I can’t wait to share all their insights and expertise with you. 

The reason all this is happening is that I have really ramped up my networking, which is something that’s really uncomfortable for me. I am so much more comfortable sitting in my office, doing my work quietly alone. I love people. I love socializing. I love talking to people, but when the work part gets involved, that’s when I start to shut down a little bit. 

I’m dealing with my own imposter syndrome and I’m sharing this with you because I want you to know it happens to everybody. Even if you’re running your own business, even if you’re someone who helps other people, even if you have your own podcast. Because when you’re helping other people, that imposter syndrome goes away. When you start to help yourself, that’s when it creeps back up. And I’ll tell you, I had a huge bout of it this morning. 

I’m actually going to be teaching coaches, meaning helping people get their coaching certification. I am teaching one of the modules of a course for the Flow Coach Institute, which is a really great coaching school. And full disclosure, it is a coaching school that I’m invested in. So I am teaching one of the modules and I have to say, there are some very educated people in this program, who have degrees much higher than mine. 

And if you listened to a previous podcast of mine, when I talked about the big mistakes I made in my career, I talked about the fact that I don’t have my degree and that wasn’t one of the big mistakes I made in my career, but it certainly led to other one’s more imposter syndrome. 

So this morning, when I was getting ready to record this particular episode, I was also listening and reviewing the content for the actual course that I was teaching. And I was like, ‘Am I good enough for this?’ You always have to talk yourself down off a ledge. And it’s that process of being able to recognize when that happens and having the strength to put things in perspective. 

I’m going to do a great job and I’m going to do it my way and I’m going to listen to the needs of the students and I’m going to make sure they get what they need. All the other stuff out there is noise. And that’s what I really need to focus on. 

I’m also getting ready for my very first TEDx.That’s coming up this December and is actually happening in Hilton Head, where I’m talking about my perspective on how career happiness really works and the entire TEDx process is something that’s really amazing. I am so lucky to have been accepted into this process because once you apply and your selected, the training and the coaching that you get to really hone your content is invaluable. 

These TEDx folks and my personal coach, Laurie Hill. She is amazing. She is honest, direct, and available, which are my three favorite things as a coach. Just tell me the honest truth, ask me the hard questions, get me to think about things I didn’t think about before and I’m going to make it work. So I’m so grateful to the TEDx folks over there in Hilton Head for really helping me hone my talk. 

The reason I bring up the TEDx thing is not so much for the imposter syndrome, which absolutely is creeping up right now, but speaking at a TEDx was something that actually had on my vision board. I don’t know if you have a vision board, but I have a vision board. I actually have a picture of a faceless woman. I know that’s kind of creepy. But a faceless woman on a TEDx stage on my vision board because it’s something that I really wanted to do. If you want to do something, there are two key pieces to that. There’s getting clear about what you want to do and then going after it. 

And that is what my guest today is going to be talking about. Tracy Roesch Williams. She is a woman with a vision and she is someone who helps other people get clarity on their vision. She is someone who has reinvented her career over and over and over again. And in each iteration, she’s always focused on creating a vision for what she wanted and then bringing that vision to life and not just what she wanted. 

What we’re going to be talking about in the interview today is getting clarity on what you want, but also making sure that thing aligns with who you are. She tells an amazing story as part of the interview that she actually started envisioning the life that she has right now, even before she realized what visioning was. And now, what Tracy has focused on is helping women in business or women starting a business create a business vision for what aligns with them. 

I know a lot of the people listening are not necessarily looking to start a business. But they’re professionals and that’s okay, too. This information in this interview completely applies to really doing anything in life. So Tracy applies it to entrepreneurship, but you can apply it to yourself in general for your career or for your life, whatever it is that you want to do. I know my vision board includes all aspects, not just my career. It includes all aspects of my life that are really important to me. 

If after listening to this interview, you feel like you connect with Tracy, I know that she can find a way to help you because it’s really important that you find the right people to help you. In fact, Tracy and I do a lot of the same work, but in different ways. In my member membership program, and in my coaching practice, I absolutely help people envision what they want to do. I just do it differently than Tracy does. 

Even though you might call us competitors in some ways, I really love what Tracy does. I really connect with her. And as someone who’s listening to this podcast and maybe someone who’s looking for help or inspiration, the key thing is that you get it from people who really connect with you, who inspire you. 

So some people might be connected to me, some people will connect with Tracy and that’s okay. The important thing is that you are getting the help you need to move forward toward the goals you have in any aspect of your life. And in this case, in particular, your career. 

So Tracy has a program called Visions to Profits and we don’t actually talk about her program in this episode very much. But if you want to learn more about Tracy or her program, then I will give you all the links to all her stuff in the show notes at

So today, what we’re covering in this episode is Tracy’s approach to creating a vision and then also the process of bringing that vision to life. Let’s get to it. Here is my interview with Tracy Roesch Williams on how to bring goals to life through vision mapping. 

Mel Savage: Hey Tracy, it’s great to see you today. How’s it going up there in Alaska? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: It is wonderful. I’m hoping for the snow. It’s pouring rain and almost all the leaves are off the trees. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Are you kidding? We’re taping this October 10th, and you’re ready for snow?

Tracy Roesch Williams: It’s coming. The mountains are right behind my head here and it is coming down the mountains. I love snow.

Mel Savage: Oh my goodness. I guess you would have to if you’re going to live in Alaska. Well, if anyone, even despite what we’re talking about today if anyone wants to follow Tracy on Facebook because she puts the most beautiful pictures of Alaska on her Facebook page. So I have highly, highly recommend that to everyone as well. Yeah, for sure. 

So, Tracy, I’m so excited to talk to you today because we’re all in it to help people find their best lives for sure. And what you do in terms of helping people with their business or their careers or that ultimately obviously impacts their life in some way is I think a unique take on the ‘planning process.’ I think you call it the Vision Mapping System. So tell our listeners a little bit about what brought you to create the Vision Mapping System

Tracy Roesch Williams: Well, thanks, Mel. Thank you for having me on your podcast today. Appreciate it. So years ago, 20 years ago, I was in corporate America making a pile of money and I went to see a career coach and he was so insightful. I was 32 years old and he told me things that I never knew about myself. 

First and foremost, that I’m dyslexic, and I always thought I was just stupid. I struggled in school and struggled reading and writing and he really told me that this was the key to unlocking all sorts of awesomeness. I was crying and I told him that I had really come to him because I wanted to start a dog business and I didn’t know what that looked like. And he said, ‘If you go back to Alaska and you surround yourself with three to five people that will help you to create a plan, you will succeed beyond your wildest dreams.’ 

So I came back to Alaska and I worked with a career coach to create a business plan. And I had three mentors that kept me on track. I’m a big visionary so I would get very distracted when it came to writing the plan out. 

Mel Savage: You’re the ideas gal. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: I remember sitting with one of them. He was a lawyer and sitting with him and saying, ‘So I’m thinking of this 10,000 square foot, amazing job place.’ And he’d be like, ‘Tracy, back to the plan.’ They were amazing and they helped me to create a business plan. And what the plan did was solidify that that business would succeed. It had action steps, they had numbers. I had to do all the research in the community to make sure the business would in fact function. 

That was the beginning of my vision mapping process system if you will. 

Mel Savage: I just want to jump in and say, first of all, I want to congratulate you for surrounding yourself and going out and asking for help. Two, finding the right people to help you and consistently staying engaged with them. So many people either find people like them who think like them or do not ask for help at all. But you did that, you went back, you found the people, the right people to fill in the gaps and really support you to get what you wanted to get done. So I want to say, first of all, kudos to you for just taking that step. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Thank you. That was probably one of the most painful things besides running a marathon or two that I’ve ever done. I mean, numbers tell the truth. 

Mel Savage: How old are you, sister?

Tracy Roesch Williams: I’m going to be 53 years old, and my number tells a story. Numbers tell the truth. And so many people are flying by the seat of their pants, starting in business, running a business. And that’s not sustainable. It’s not. 

Mel Savage: When you were putting together the business plan for this dog business, you said that was, and I’ll cut you off, but that was the beginning of the ideas of vision mapping for you.

Tracy Roesch Williams: It really now goes all the way back to my childhood when I would lay in my bedroom and my mother said that I couldn’t hang anything on the wall. And so I took animals, back then we had magazines and I cut animal photos and stapled them all over one wall. And on the other wall, I had clouds and I would just lay there dreaming of the clouds and the animals. 

We live in a log home today where my view in my bed when I’m laying there is of the clouds going by the window. We’re light half of the year so I can see the clouds at night and right outside this window is a game trail where moose, bear, and lynx walk by. So having a vision as early as childhood, I would encourage all of you to look back and think about where you are today, what your thoughts were when you were younger, and if they are in sync at all. 

When we put a vision out there, that’s why vision boards are so big. Vision boards are a big sheet of paper and you put a bunch of photos and you look at it, well you’re focusing on what you’re looking at and so of course you’re going to see it. It’s like a boomerang. When you’re looking to buy a new car, like a blue Subaru.

Mel Savage: I was going Land Rover, but okay, Subaru. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Okay, a Land Rover. What color is it? 

Mel Savage: It’s navy blue with a beige interior, tan leather, rather.

Tracy Roesch Williams: When you were looking to buy that, did you all of a sudden notice everybody in their brother driving Land Rovers?

Mel Savage: I haven’t bought it yet, but it’s on my vision board, and I do, I notice it all the time. Every time I see a Land Rover, I am like, ‘Okay, that’s my car. I’m going to be driving that soon.’ 

I totally buy into what you’re saying because when I was still in my corporate gig, I had done a little vision board. A little 8½ by 11 vision board that I scooped pictures off Google, printed out, and put in the cupboard where the dog food was because every morning I would feed the dogs and so every morning, I would take a look at this board. 

It started in the coffee cupboard, and it had a picture of two dogs on it. It had a picture of me working from home. It had a picture of me living by the beach. It had a picture of a big pile of money. I’m still waiting for that one to come true. I want to say that 95% of what was on that vision board that I would see every morning was coming true. It wasn’t like I sat out going, ‘How am I going to make this work today?’ 

I’m looking at it and it was just more subconsciously like I was driving myself there. Do you know what I’m saying? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Yes. I didn’t know what kind of car I wanted, but we knew we needed to sell mine. It’s got high miles and it’s only financeable to the next person. So I asked my community because I’ve asked the question of the day for 10 years now – what kind of SUV? Narrowed it down to a Toyota 4Runner. 

That was two months ago. I’m picking my 4Runner up this afternoon. So then, the system is created over time. What I realized is if you listen to this and you put a number on a vision map.

Mel Savage: And this is your brain. You’re pointing to your head, right? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Ego. So if you listen to this and you put a number on the wall. I want to make 160,000, and that’s all. You just put it on there and you drive for it. You drive. You might make it, great. It’s been my experience. I listened to this. After the dog business, I listened to this again. I went into real estate, put that number, made it, it was miserable. So if you put that number and then you ask yourself. ‘Is it aligned with my heart? Is it aligned with my values?’ 

And then you create steps to get to that number aligning your hurt, your values, your mission, and how is that going to help somebody else. It’s off the charts what will start appearing.

Mel Savage: So I want to tell you a little bit about how the help somebody else part really helps bring that vision to life. Tell me a little bit about that because you were saying it’s not just about putting things on a board that align with who you are really and what you want in your heart versus just in your mind as you were saying. But it’s also about how those things can help the world, and help people. So tell me a bit about that, why that part’s important. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: So the vehicle for me, I have to ask myself. It’s a 2018 4Runner. I’m not about the brand new. We live on a dirt road on a mountain. So people had to talk me down like, ‘Tracy, you really don’t want that Volvo with those butter seats because the first time your dog puts their foot through the seat, this is how much it’s going to cost.’ Oh, okay. This is this talking. My head, my ego. 

I want that so I’m aligning and then I say, how is that 4Runner going to help me help others? I do a lot of mentoring women in my personal life and a lot of giving women rides who might not be able to drive or have cars or whatever. So how is that vehicle going to help me help other people? And lo and behold, I mean all week I’m tooling women around. I’m picking a group up tomorrow. And that enriches me, that enriches my spirit, which helps enrich my marriage and my family. 

Mel Savage: And you’re putting all that positive energy out there from it as well. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: So in the real estate, when I wanted that 160,000, which I got, it was I want. I want. There was nothing in there about how is this going to help provide for other people. How’s this going to help? The money and the goals kept going up and up and up and driving and driving. And I kept getting wound tighter and tighter and tighter. And when I was ready to make the leap to leave real estate, it was the weirdest thing. 

This is just a side story, but it’s really important to know. We were in Hawaii and my husband wanted to go visit this temple. Why do you want to go there? And he said, ‘I really want to go.’ He was in commercial real estate. He said, ‘I really want to go because they said it should withstand a thousand years and I really want to see and hear how they built it.’ So he wanted to go to see the structure. 

We got there and the fellow who was leading the tour was in real estate and there was another realtor there and I was done with it. I was ready to leave real estate because I was wound so tight. And so after me and the other realtor were waiting to talk to the guy who led the tour, who was in real estate. And the young guy who was talking to the man who led the tour, he said, ‘I’m in California and I’m selling real estate.’

I realized that I really wanted to leave the business because it was so crazy. I realized it was my calling. It’s my calling from deep inside to guide people through the sharks in the business of real estate. So I’m going to go back and I’m going to serve others and I’m going to guide them through the sharks in real estate. And I just stood there, looked at him and said, ‘I’m leaving. I have to step away ’cause I’m unable to do what you just said.’ I can’t.

Mel Savage: That wasn’t aligned with who you were.

Tracy Roesch Williams: You’re right. So we can do anything if we’re aligned and we’re willing to serve. 

Mel Savage: The serving part is so important. I’ve learned so much because when you’re in corporate, it’s really about, ‘What have you done for me lately, sister?’ What have you done today? Tick all the boxes, check, check, check, meeting, meeting, meeting, getting people to do stuff versus taking a moment to give. It really took me a good year and a half to get out of that mindset. 

To really start to think about how can I serve people, what can I do to help you without asking for anything in return. It’s so fast that the minute you do that for somebody, whether it’s just providing a really nice, thoughtful note on their social media posts, not just a happy face heart, but something thoughtful. Just something that small means so much to people, and it makes them either light up or change their energy and they respond. That’s all people want is to be noticed and to be supported and it makes such a big difference.

Tracy Roesch Williams: And then you’ll start seeing servers in other places like I was at UPS yesterday, have been getting my passport photo for renewal. And I said to my husband this morning that the lady was so nice, she was so detailed with my photo and helped me staple it. There are servers out there everywhere that are just serving.

Mel Savage: It’s fun and it makes me feel great. I don’t know if we’re off-topic, we’re on a tangent on the topics. So I want to come back to when you realize at this point that you are starting to bring your vision to life. So how did that lead to your vision mapping process systems? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Social media came along in 2009. I was making a pile of money in real estate. I had massage therapists every week who were digging their elbows and my back. They’d be like, ‘What do you do for a living?’ I’m making a lot of money. The thing that I’ve learned about my learning disability is to go to others, rub shoulders with them, and get to know them. That’s how I learned. 

So I joined a group. She was this woman in New York. She was crazy. She was leading a group of us on social media and we all started just learning from her, paying her money to teach us how to do social media. And I started doing videos. I’d sit in my little real estate office doing videos and the realtors would walk by and they’d be like, ‘What are you doing?’ And this is never going to fly. And I’m super private and, and I thought, ‘Oh, this is amazing.’ 

Mel Savage: Yeah. Fast forward, everybody’s doing it.

Tracy Roesch Williams: And I had had sales and marketing first where I was successful and then the dog business and then real estate. I thought this was my chance to create a consulting business. And that led to social media marketing and doing that for clients. And I had a team and then it started feeling more like I was leading again with my head, with my ego. 

There were all these young social media savvy people zipping up and I thought, I’m not serving my people anymore. I need to step aside what I can do. And it came to me to create this vision mapping system and retreat for women. And so I started doing retreats for women and I’d been speaking on social media, speaking and teaching, and doing workshops. 

And it just morphed. I would trick people into thinking they were getting social media and then I would incorporate a system. You need a system for social media. And I’m going to call it the Vision Mapping System. Then people would be like, ‘What the hell is that?’ 

Mel Savage: I just want to have a post. Can you just put a post up? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: And then I kept putting it out there, but my messaging was very unclear. People would see photos of me in the woods and they think that she’s walking through the woods visioning. Things are literally falling from the sky for her. We don’t relate at all. And I just kept doing and then tribe came along and the messaging to be very clear and very clear and very clear and speak English and tell them what you’re doing. 

It’s a plan. It’s a visual plan. It’s a system that I have and we created and it’s on a big easel board and it has stickies and it’s a visual plan to make for the next 12 months. 

Mel Savage: So tell me a little bit about who you serve now because we talked a little bit about, overwhelm and there’s so much going on in your life and thinking with your head. Who are these people that you are serving? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: They are women in business or women starting in business. A lot of them are even established business owners and they’re so busy working in their business that they feel they don’t have time to work on their business yet. They have all these goals dreams and visions that they want to do and succeed. 

Mel Savage: Oh my God, that sounds like our pre-podcast conversation. Yes, exactly. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: I read a book, Elizabeth Gilbert’s Big Magic and she talks about these visions. They knock on your door, they tell you what they are and you hear them. And then if you don’t do anything, they boogie down the street to the neighbor’s house and maybe the neighbor grabs them and takes them and runs with them. And so it’s about if you really want to do that goal, that whatever. 

Let’s look at aligning it with your personal vision, mission, and core, seeing if it’s aligned, and then creating those steps. I had a client come to me. She wanted to open a coffee shop, a super successful career. She has a great career. So she started doing the vision mapping system, got halfway through, and went, ‘Oh, my dream that I’ve had all my life, I do not want to do this.’ So she did create it. She’s a co-owner, she’s a silent owner. 

So it saves a lot of time and a lot of stress. Create the plan and see if it even matches and if the numbers work and if not, let it go. 

Mel Savage: So it’s really deciding what you want to do based on what aligns with you. That’s what your system actually provides you. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Yes. The big piece – accountability. For 21 years now, I’ve had, I call them spiritual advisors in my life and it’s not my husband, it’s these women that I share what’s going on in here. They don’t tell me what to do. They just listen and then they share. I’m accountable to them. 

Mel Savage: It’s funny because my podcast last week was about accountability and I really feel like…Build a plan, build a vision, align with who you are, and figure out what you want to do. The hardest part of the entire process is going forward and taking action and making it happen. 

It’s the part where everyone freezes up and the fear kicks back in. Your mindset starts to take over, fear of rejection, fear of failure, all of those things that you’re struggling with. How do you help people with that? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Well, that was the missing piece for me. I was going into companies and taking them through this vision mapping system. I was holding women’s retreats and I was feeling like something was missing. They would go away and I wouldn’t hear from them. Something’s missing. So I put out on my vision map that I needed to learn something else. I was missing something. 

So I started researching, coaching certifications. I’m not a school person. I’m like, find my people and learn from them. So I started looking, looking, searching, searching. Wow. One day, I’m sitting there and Stu from Tribe pops up on my screen. I was like, that’s the missing piece. So I scrambled and did a whole bunch of things and then our buddy, Josh was like, you’re taking these women on this retreat, offer them to be your founders. 

Well, I don’t have anything created for my membership. He’s like, it doesn’t matter. They’re looking to you for accountability. That’s the piece. So it was the last day of the retreat and I had my little one sheet or I was going to give them to be the founders of my membership and they had all these breakthroughs all weekend, all these transformations. 

And the one girl just looks at me, and she says, ‘Tracy, I’m going to go back with my vision map and I don’t have anybody at home to help me. What do I do with that?’ And one of the girls that was her second retreat with me, she was like, ‘Did you just cue her up for this?’ I said, Let me just tell you what I envisioned and what appeared for me, and what I have to offer you is a membership, visions to profits membership. Would you be a founder? 

They all signed up. What they love is that accountability piece. I think they would just pay me if that’s all we did was Zoom calls every week. They love that piece. 

Mel Savage: I think so. I actually lead a couple of masterminds that are brainstorming in accountability. But the energy that comes off those calls when people are just sharing their ideas, getting it out of their heads, talking about what’s holding them back. We worked through it as a group, not just me, as a group and then they leave, they’re going, ‘I know exactly what I’m going to do now.’ And they’re energized to do it. 

They broke not only through I don’t know what to do but also the fear of making it happen because they see this potential solution. And I talk about that too. It’s just about getting people around you that can help you, but also it’s just breaking it down. We were talking about overwhelm a little bit. 

You get overwhelmed by, let’s say you were going to lose weight. Make it not about work. You want to lose 50 pounds. You get overwhelmed by the number 50. When you don’t really need to think about 50. Just need to think about what you’re eating for dinner tonight. Just make that decision and then worry about what you’re eating for breakfast tomorrow, or plan out a couple of days at a time. Whatever works. Don’t think about that big number 50 right now, because that’s not important. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Or I take the number and then we break it. And we go as low as we can go. I did it with a client the other day. I’m like, what would a hundred thousand look like to you? She’d never done a business plan. We broke it down into working her 10 months out of the year. We broke it, broke it down, broke it down, broke it down and it ended up with 20 clients a week or something like that. It was like I wanted to hug her through the screen. She just, ‘That. Oh my! Wow.’ 

Mel Savage: That’s a big achievable. All of a sudden it’s something achievable.

Tracy Roesch Williams: Yes. We do meditation as well and they see the power. And it’s funny because I think people want to categorize. We’ve talked about this. They asked what denomination is that, if it’s religious.

Mel Savage: The meditation, you mean? 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Yes and it’s wonderful because I’ll say, I have a book here with Archbishop Desmond Tutu and the Dalai Lama. They wrote a book together and it’s all about calming the mind. I have another book here that’s the Bible. I have another book here that’s Buddhism. They all say the same thing. It’s all about if we can calm our minds to hear, what we really know deep inside, we can do that every day. The rest is just gravy. 

Mel Savage: So it’s just learning to let go of the overwhelm, break it down into small pieces, calm your mind. And I’m going to add something that you said earlier, be of service to other people. That’s like the key to life right there. We just nailed it, everyone. It’s over. Mic drop. All the answers are in this one podcast. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: And then, I move people through or try to, I don’t, I work with them so they can move through five stages and I use a map. Really pretty. It looks like the Alaska mountains.

Mel Savage: Oh, I saw that. It is beautiful. So beautiful. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: I was talking to Mel before we hit the record. I had taken a course and spent thousands of dollars with my team creating all this stuff and it was all just floating everywhere and the messaging wasn’t clear and it just was floating and I was beating myself up for spending all that money and it all has come together. All those graphics have come together for my logo, and the visions to profits membership, which there was a five-stage process. 

Mel Savage: Isn’t that amazing, too? I have found the same thing, not just through the Tribe, which is where you and I met, but I had, even though with last couple of years, these disparate things, ideas, stages, things I wanted to help people with. 

Over the course of the last six months for me, but certainly, it happens at some point, everything just clicks. All of a sudden it is just like, this is how it works, this is how it fits together, this is how I’m supposed to be serving people, and then the energy that comes from that. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: And not giving up five minutes before the miracle.

Mel Savage: I agree.

Tracy Roesch Williams: I used to hear that all the time and I think of this visual, I was in a women’s networking thing. I’m a really good marketer and we had to do a visual description of what we did for a living. I was in real estate so I asked my community and they fed me all this great information. I borrowed the neighbor’s doll house and I brought the dollhouse and all these little balloons and because I was selling houses, I set it all up. It was beautiful and I thought, I was all that. 

I left five minutes before the whole event ended and somebody called me and asked why I left and I won the grand prize of whatever it was. It struck me that you had to be present to win and I’m like, ‘Don’t leave five minutes before the miracle!’ 

Mel Savage: What a great story. I love that. Now I feel like you made that up. It was so perfect. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: He goes, what did you have to go do? I go, I was sitting in the car wash. I was like, ‘Oh my God, Tracy, you’re such a big deal in your own mind. Are you kidding me?’

Mel Savage: That’s hilarious. I love this. There are so many great things we’ve talked about in this discussion in terms of really being clear about what you want, making sure it aligns with you, getting it out of your head, and making sure it aligns with your heart. Visualizing it, constantly figuring out how it serves people, and then making sure that you take that and find a way to stay accountable to bringing that to life.

I mean, it’s brilliant. It’s perfect. And I do the same thing but in a different way. I love your take on it because it really is a bit more spiritual and really grounded, in your heart and in your spirituality and what you believe to make happen. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Yes. You were saying, that for the Alaska photos for the longest time, I kept thinking niche and brand and people would say I should be in the travel business for Alaska. And I’d be thinking maybe I should. And now it all just ties together because it’s my life. Nature is my life. And so if I’m going to be teaching and preaching, I’m going to be sharing that I got this pretty cool life and I want to share with people.

Mel Savage: And here’s how you can have your pretty cool life if you listen to yourself and you take advantage of those opportunities. Brilliant. So, anyone who goes into the show notes, I’m going to put links to Tracy, links to her site, and links to the book she mentioned with Elizabeth Gilbert. I love it. Thank you so much, Tracy. This has been such an inspiring conversation. 

Tracy Roesch Williams: Thank you, Mel. I appreciate it. I appreciate you. 

Thanks so much to Tracy for her amazing insights. Wasn’t that great? Doesn’t she just have a really fantastic, down-to-earth, genuine energy about her? That’s what I so much appreciate about her. I love her energy and I love chatting with her because I always leave inspired. Now let me share some of my key takeaways from our discussion. Number one, create a picture of how you want to live your life. 

And for me, when it comes to your career, it doesn’t have to necessarily be a job title. It can be where you want to work, with whom you want to work, and what are you doing. Think about all of that and if you need some help with really bringing that to life, you can go to episode one of this podcast where I talk about building a vision for your want-to career so you can take a look at that. 

The other thing Tracy talks about, number two, is taking imperfect action. Tracy talked about how she built up her own membership. She talked about Elizabeth Gilbert’s book on Big Magic about taking advantage of the opportunities that are showing up for you. 

When she had her offsite with the women to talk about vision mapping, she had an idea that she’d like to ask them to join her in a membership group, which she had not created yet. And she just took a step forward. And when the opportunity presented itself for her to bring it up with the group she did, she didn’t shy away from it. 

Sometimes, you just need to take imperfect action. You do not have to have everything nailed down and every question answered to be able to move forward. And I know that’s a really hard thing for corporate folks to do. It’s really hard for me to do because you’re beaten into your head as a corporate person and you do not want to make a mistake. You have to plan everything out. You have to have backup plans on backup plans. And I get that. 

But when it comes to your career, this is a place where you’re taking control. You are calling the shots. So you can take as much imperfect action as you want. Actually, I would also encourage you to do that in your day job as well, but you have to do it at your pace based on your environment, your personality, and the space you could create for yourself in your job. 

But as Tracy said, or actually as Elizabeth Gilbert said, if you don’t take advantage of these opportunities that are served up to you, they’re just going to go down the road and go somewhere else. So for you FOMO folks out there, make sure that you are taking advantage of those opportunities. Keep your eyes open. 

And then my third takeaway from Tracy is about the small steps. I talk about this all the time. This is exactly how my program works as well. Small steps towards accountability. It’s about moving forward, constantly having that forward momentum. It doesn’t matter how fast that momentum is, it is just moving forward step by step. 

And like I said, if you want to get more info on Tracy then just go to the show notes at and there’s also a link to her business and life starter kit. This is a free download for you. Tracy calls it her calmness kit and you can access that in the show notes as well. Thank you so much for joining me this week. Now looking forward to the next few weeks, we’re going to be focused on development. 

I know for a lot of people out there, it’s review time and so we have four or five episodes that we’re going to be dedicating to build in your development plans. And prepping and taking leadership as part of your performance development process that you might be going through at the job that you have right now. 

If you don’t work at an organization where you have a formal process for performance development, don’t sweat it. That doesn’t mean that you still can’t have a performance development process built in for yourself with your boss, where you’re working right now. You can take leadership in that and we’re going to talk about how you do that and some of the things that you can do not only as an employee. 

But if you’re a manager, this content is going to be for you as well because so often as managers, you don’t get trained on how to do a really good performance development review for somebody and you don’t get trained on how to have some of those tougher conversations or how to effectively give feedback in a way so it’s heard. 

So these are all the things we’re going to be covering over the next four or five weeks. You don’t want to miss a thing, so make sure that you sign up for alerts.

Subscribe to the podcast, and I will see you next week. Bye for now.



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